November 5, 2024

6 thoughts on “‘Daily Stun’ Burns the Constitution In A Single Editorial

  1. Ferenc I agree with you entirely, but there are certain consequences to this line of reasoning that supporters of this resolution have to accept. If Cornell wants to ban Nazi groups on campus, that’s fine. If Cornell want’s to ban any speech that says anything negative about any minority group, for example, that’s also fine. But at this point the University must admit that it does not have a vested interested in upholding the principles of free speech. We would need to explicitly state to students upon acceptance that Cornell is a university that endorses certain liberal viewpoints about equality, fairness, and how others should be treated. If you don’t conform to these beliefs, you shouldn’t expect to have your free speech protected on campus. That has to be made clear.

    Now don’t think that this is a ridiculous proposal. Christian universities present these kinds of disclaimers all the time, and courts have upheld their rights to remove groups from campus that don’t fully endorse Christian doctrines.

    Also consider the flip side of the argument. If a majority of Cornell students feel that it is important for there to be a rule that discriminatory speech should be banned, even at the expense of the freedom of speech, then it should be equally valid for a predominately Christian university (not an official Christian school, just one with a lot of Christian students) to force all of its students to read and then be tested on Bible scriptures. After all, this university should have no more responsibility to uphold 1st amendment rights than Cornell, right?

    We’ve had this discussion before, Ferenc, and while I know we don’t entirely agree on the national level, I think we can definitely agree about the dangers of such a resolution at a university level.

  2. First, these “expansive and progressive anti-discrimination policies” are not supported by conservatives. There is not universal agreement that hate crimes should be dealt with differently from similar crimes that aren’t directed towards some targeted group.

    I also want to address two of your points:

    1) “A school that forces students to memorize Bible passages against their will is violating the First Amendment in a much more profound way than one that prohibits students from publicly assailing students of a particular ethnic or religious group.”
    – Disagree. This isn’t just about protecting students of a particular ethnic or religious group. The campus discrimination code would make it so that Chi Alpha could not have forced their leader to step down after he admitted to being a homosexual, thus violating their right to free speech and assembly. I can go through a number of similar examples; this is just as bad a violation of the first amendment as my example from my last comment.

    2) “Regardless, the example seems to me to rest on a false premise; any school that forces its students to memorize scripture is a Christian school, de facto if not de jure. As long as students know this before committing to attend the university, there is no harm done.”
    – So if my first amendment rights are compromised, there is no harm done because I should have known that Cornell is an ultra liberal university and that this was to be expected? This doesn’t seem right…

    Finally, I’m not really trying to “compare Cornell’s regulations to [my] unlikely scenario.” My intention is to show that if you support one course of action, you should certainly not find anything wrong with this other one I present.

  3. “I want to ask, though: do conservatives find it acceptable for the University to condone racist, sexist, and other types of hateful speech when it interferes with the ability of students to enjoy a safe and comfortable learning environment? That seems to be what you’re suggesting.”

    – Hm, I’m not really sure what you mean here. I certainly don’t believe the university should condone it, but it is a different matter when the university passes a code of conduct that allows them to punish anyone suspected of practicing discriminatory speech.

    “It’s not as though next week the S.A. is going to decide that politically conservative speech is against Campus Code. We’re talking about extreme cases of harassment and discrimination here, and I feel as though the issue is being blown out of proportion.”
    – Last year the SA wanted to remove “Cornell” from Cornell Review. That’s not too far off from outright censorship. I don’t think our complaints are blowing things out of proportion at all.

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